Comments on: Fines For Litter And Bad Driving Habits http://www.cararticles.co.uk/uk-fines-for-litter-and-bad-driving-habits.html Car Blog & Car News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:34:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Micky http://www.cararticles.co.uk/uk-fines-for-litter-and-bad-driving-habits.html#comment-3303 Micky Thu, 01 May 2008 09:17:19 +0000 http://www.cararticles.co.uk/?p=166#comment-3303 Dexey sounds like one of those annoying idiots that builds up a massive queue of traffic and assists some drivers on their way to road rage. I'm not saying he/she is an idiot, that's just what comes out of the post. Mr Butterscotch provides the perfect reasoning - "safe to do so". If you can't judge how safely you're driving, or spot possible hazards, then you are a hazard to other road users and should not be driving. Key to driving safely is careful, mindful observation, not driving at a snail's pace in some stupefied oblivion. Dexey sounds like one of those annoying idiots that builds up a massive queue of traffic and assists some drivers on their way to road rage.

I’m not saying he/she is an idiot, that’s just what comes out of the post.

Mr Butterscotch provides the perfect reasoning – “safe to do so”.

If you can’t judge how safely you’re driving, or spot possible hazards, then you are a hazard to other road users and should not be driving.

Key to driving safely is careful, mindful observation, not driving at a snail’s pace in some stupefied oblivion.

]]> By: Mr Butterscotch http://www.cararticles.co.uk/uk-fines-for-litter-and-bad-driving-habits.html#comment-3036 Mr Butterscotch Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:23:23 +0000 http://www.cararticles.co.uk/?p=166#comment-3036 As an aside, I don't think we'd be without cars in an ideal world. There'd just be bigger roads and less Co2 - along with cheap fuel. As an aside, I don’t think we’d be without cars in an ideal world. There’d just be bigger roads and less Co2 – along with cheap fuel.

]]> By: Mr Butterscotch http://www.cararticles.co.uk/uk-fines-for-litter-and-bad-driving-habits.html#comment-3035 Mr Butterscotch Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:46 +0000 http://www.cararticles.co.uk/?p=166#comment-3035 Hi Dexey, Your first point is... I'm not quite sure to be honest, but you haven't given a good excuse beyond pointing out the fact that it is the 'upper advised speed'. I agree - which is why I say: "do the legal speed limit, provided it is safe to do so". In urban areas, lower speed limits can be imposed by law (along with 'recommended' speed limits). If they are imposed, people should and do drive slower. On the other hand, if it is a 30mph limit and the conditions are clear and safe, there's no reason at all why the car driver can't do that speed. I agree that urban areas should be lovely little havens where people walk around and cycle everywhere, but this is neither Paris nor Amsterdam. The fact remains that it would take me over an hour to shop at the town where I work - it would be pointless getting public transport to that location for instance. As for public transport - a friend of mine had a relative killed by a bus, as it was pulling away. Not exactly safe either you could say... Hi Dexey,

Your first point is… I’m not quite sure to be honest, but you haven’t given a good excuse beyond pointing out the fact that it is the ‘upper advised speed’. I agree – which is why I say:
“do the legal speed limit, provided it is safe to do so”.

In urban areas, lower speed limits can be imposed by law (along with ‘recommended’ speed limits). If they are imposed, people should and do drive slower. On the other hand, if it is a 30mph limit and the conditions are clear and safe, there’s no reason at all why the car driver can’t do that speed.

I agree that urban areas should be lovely little havens where people walk around and cycle everywhere, but this is neither Paris nor Amsterdam. The fact remains that it would take me over an hour to shop at the town where I work – it would be pointless getting public transport to that location for instance.

As for public transport – a friend of mine had a relative killed by a bus, as it was pulling away. Not exactly safe either you could say…

]]> By: dexey http://www.cararticles.co.uk/uk-fines-for-litter-and-bad-driving-habits.html#comment-3026 dexey Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:36:25 +0000 http://www.cararticles.co.uk/?p=166#comment-3026 There is an excuse for doing 20 in a 30 mph limit, and it is a good excuse. The 30 represents an upper advised speed not a mandatory must be achieved speed. Secondly, in urban areas, that 30 should probably be 20 to help protect vulnerable road users. Car use should be a poor second to another form of transport in the urban area and particularly of lower priority than walking, cycling and public transport. There is an excuse for doing 20 in a 30 mph limit, and it is a good excuse.
The 30 represents an upper advised speed not a mandatory must be achieved speed. Secondly, in urban areas, that 30 should probably be 20 to help protect vulnerable road users. Car use should be a poor second to another form of transport in the urban area and particularly of lower priority than walking, cycling and public transport.

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